Comments on: You Need Cooling https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/you-need-cooling/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Thu, 01 Apr 2021 12:56:49 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/you-need-cooling/#comment-13618 Thu, 21 Jan 2021 14:56:04 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?p=5100#comment-13618 In reply to RoyC.

Excellent point, Roy. I guess my statement could lead people to believe that comfort is ALL in your mind when that’s certainly not what I intended. You never let me get away with anything!

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By: RoyC https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/you-need-cooling/#comment-13616 Tue, 19 Jan 2021 14:38:05 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?p=5100#comment-13616 In reply to Roy Collver.

You stated: Thermal comfort is a “condition of mind” that is “assessed by subjective evaluation.” That may be true, but it doesn’t change the fact that acceptable thermal comfort conditions are well known and quite consistent for almost all people. If you take metabolic rate and clothing level into account, then most people find that the same combinations of temperature, humidity, radiation, and air velocity are generally acceptable to people regardless of gender, age, race, etc. Ole Fanger did a lot of research to show this. ASHRAE Std. 55 and the Handbook provide those results from Fanger and others so that we can design and control buildings properly. When you go running, it isn’t your state of mind that is changing, it is your metabolic rate. You adjust by changing your clothing level, not your state of mind 😉

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By: Roy Collver https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/you-need-cooling/#comment-13615 Fri, 15 Jan 2021 18:41:20 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?p=5100#comment-13615 A magic combination. Running – with Robert Plant wailing away in one ear and Jimmy Page blasting it into the other. Bliss!

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By: Steve Waclo https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/you-need-cooling/#comment-13614 Fri, 15 Jan 2021 18:23:18 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?p=5100#comment-13614 Yet another informative and dare I say, entertaining article (the best kind!)

As someone who lives near a large, cold lake (Tahoe) I want to observe that folks who fall into the lake’s frigid water, even in summer, seldom die of hypothermia. The shock of encountering frigid water often induces a gasp and aspiration, followed by a shutdown of the extremities and drowning.

Of course, the end result, for a handful of individuals every year here, is sadly the same…

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By: Alex Bodian https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/you-need-cooling/#comment-13613 Fri, 15 Jan 2021 16:12:35 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?p=5100#comment-13613 As always, a spot on observation. Getting customers to think about heat loss and gain is hard enough but trying to explain the dynamic of comfort can be a real challenge. Starting the conversation from the standpoint of the body’s needs rather than the building envelope’s relationship with outside conditions may be a an approach worth trying. Speaking of “Back to schooling”… When I tell someone that a high school in eastern PA never experiences the need for heating Monday through Friday but rather requires cooling regardless of what the outside temperature is they are stunned until they integrate the met value thousands of adolescents produce. Unfortunately, the designers of the school’s geothermal system may not have accounted for this. The geo loop temp, in the middle of the winter, is 80+F when it should be closer to 40F. It never gets the opportunity to draw heat from the loop field – it’s continuously rejecting heat to the loop field. They eventually installed chilling towers…

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