Comments on: Why Is Guardian Building Products Threatening Energy Vanguard? https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Wed, 03 Nov 2021 13:18:10 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: John Murphy https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard/#comment-3152 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 18:53:00 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard#comment-3152 Such a classless and clueless
Such a classless and clueless action by the lawyer who obviously had their own interests (the law firm) in mind ahead of their clients (Guardian). I am dealing with the same type of law firm in regards to a manufactures defective products. My thumbnail is that the manufactures legal team (of the manufacturer that we had to sue to get them to even respond reasonably) is costing the manufacture 3-5 times as much as it would have if instead the manufacturer had handled the problem directly and civilly. Not to mention a 300-400K in sales it has cost the complicit wholesaler that I once was loyal to. Un-freaking-believable!!!

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By: rex https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard/#comment-3151 Fri, 11 Nov 2011 03:56:23 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard#comment-3151 Ha! You made
Ha! You made
TechDirt
 
The phenomenon is called The Streisand Effect. – In summary, the more you try to suppress negative news, the more exposure it gets. 
 
Make Guardian pay your legal fees with no non-disclosure clause in the settlement terms. Then tells us about it.

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By: Jeff Gephart https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard/#comment-3150 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 23:03:32 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard#comment-3150 Someone suggested a viewing
Someone suggested a viewing of the manufacturer’s installation instructions. They can be seen at: http://www.guardianbp.com/litlib/How_To_Install_Insul.pdf 
 
Grade I anyone?

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By: David Butler https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard/#comment-3149 Thu, 10 Nov 2011 00:27:48 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard#comment-3149 Allison, I look forward to
Allison, I look forward to reading the apology… gotta be a first. Guardian’s attorney clearly didn’t know who he was dealing with. I bet he won’t forget your name now!

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard/#comment-3148 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 08:30:44 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard#comment-3148 Thank you all so much for
Thank you all so much for your support! I really appreciate it.  
 
Today I received a letter from the president and CEO of Guardian apologizing for their actions and promising not to pursue the matter. I’ll write more about it in tomorrow’s post here in the EV blog.

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By: Kevin Virobik https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard/#comment-3147 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 03:50:57 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard#comment-3147 I’ll let Allison provide
I’ll let Allison provide details, but I received a copy of a letter from Steven Ziessler, the President of Guardian Building Products, that appears to be more conciliatory and circumspect than the original letter from Mr. Metz. I don’t think that Allison will have to mortgage his house for legal fees…. 
 
Success?

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By: Frank Albert (Tinner666) https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard/#comment-3146 Wed, 09 Nov 2011 02:18:11 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard#comment-3146 “With the attorney
“With the attorney response, I know Guardian now and it does not give me positive thoughts.” Yes, I was looking at the installation. I hadn’t even noticed the brand name. Go figure. No matter the brand, it’s a poor job. After seeing their response, I’ll avoid that product like the plague.

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By: shtrum https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard/#comment-3145 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 23:42:40 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard#comment-3145 My first reading of this was
My first reading of this was that someone had a son/daughter who recently graduated with a (poor) law degree. The Lanham Act refers to trademark infringement, i.e., someone using someone else’s trademark for personal gain. In other words, if you put cotton candy between two sheets of kraft paper and sold it as Guardian Insulation, you might get a nasty cease-and-desist letter. For showing a bad example of batt installation, however, this is just a sad commentary on corporate shallowness. 
 
 
 

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By: Steve Byers https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard/#comment-3144 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 22:18:17 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard#comment-3144 In the words of General &quot
In the words of General “Vinegar” Joe Stillwell (one of my heroes) and a lot of other clever folks: 
Illegitmi non carborundum — Don’t Let the Bastards Grind you Down.  
Not really latin, but you get the idea.  
I’ve been there too with a foil bubble wrap guy that wanted to have his way with me for my telling a homeowner (a year after construction) that the foil bubble wrap under his radiant floor wasn’t R-10. One email with substantial research documentation and I no longer heard from him. He was smarter than this guy I guess.

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By: Issac Wheeler https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard/#comment-3143 Tue, 08 Nov 2011 19:29:36 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=why-is-guardian-building-products-threatening-energy-vanguard#comment-3143 Well that makes me wary of
Well that makes me wary of using ANY of Guardians products in the future! 
Heavy is the hand that holds us down… 
 

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