Comments on: US Energy Flows — Inputs and Outputs 1995 to 2010 https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Wed, 20 Jul 2022 14:40:47 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Thom https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010/#comment-4560 Sat, 01 Sep 2012 22:57:54 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010#comment-4560 Is there an updated chart of
Is there an updated chart of U.S. Energy Flow Trends/Net Primary Resource Consumption? The last one appears to be for 2002, created by LLNL back in 2004. 
 
Thanks.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010/#comment-4559 Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:43:29 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010#comment-4559 That last link doesn’t work
That last link doesn’t work above, so let me try again: 
 
 
How Energy Actually Gets Used 
 
 

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010/#comment-4558 Sat, 25 Aug 2012 17:40:52 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010#comment-4558 David E.:
David E.: The US EIA has a lot of data, and they do track those kinds of end uses, too. That’ll have to be the subject of a different article, though, because this one focuses on the bigger picture flows. 
 
Paul P.: I don’t know the answer to that question, but surely the loss of industry to other countries has had a significant effect on our energy flows. Thanks for that IEA link! It’s great, and for those who didn’t copy and paste, you can click below to see it: 
 
IEA Data Visualization 
 
Lucas D.: Thanks for that link, Lucas. Gail is very thorough in her analyses. I know her from when I used to go to the Atlanta Beyond Oil meetings. Here’s the clickable link for those who’d like to read it: 
 
An Energy/GDP Forecast to 2050 
 
Chris K.: Thanks for the link to your article. You used the Lawrence Livermore National Lab that Rana mentioned, which is indeed a bit more informative since it includes the “unused energy.” 
 
Energy Flows in the Us 
 
Rana B.: Yes, the LLNL diagrams do seem more complete since they include the “unused energy.” Here’s the clickable link to the article you referred to: 
 
How Energy Actually Gets Used 
 
Wow! I don’t know if I’ve ever written an article that’s prompted so many comments with links to related material. Thanks, everyone! 
 
 
 

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By: Rana Belshe https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010/#comment-4557 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 20:16:12 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010#comment-4557 This is a nice visual/data
This is a nice visual/data set. I am partial to LBNL version of energy flow trends which shows source inputs, flow to end uses, (residential, industry, transport, etc.) and reveals the huge amount of waste in each sector. The version that comes easily to hand is from a Washington Post post showing 2005 data.

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By: Chris Kaiser https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010/#comment-4556 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 17:19:06 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010#comment-4556 Allison, I can’t believe you
Allison, I can’t believe you didnt link to our famous article on Energy Flows: 
http://mapawatt.com/2010/06/03/energy-flows/ 
 
As you suggest, it would be very cool to see how this changes over time!

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By: Lucas Durand https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010/#comment-4555 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 02:29:54 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010#comment-4555 Oops, 

Oops, 
 
Looks like I made a typo. 
 
Here is the link in a less confusing format. 
 
http://ourfiniteworld.com/2012/07/26/an-optimistic-energygdp-forecast-to-2050-based-on-data-since-1820/

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By: Lucas Durand https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010/#comment-4554 Thu, 23 Aug 2012 02:28:11 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010#comment-4554 Bradley, 

Bradley, 
 

 
“>Here is a link to a blog post
by Gail “the actuary” Tverberg containing several graphs and some discussion on per captia energy consumption. 
 
 
 
It may not be quite what you asking to see since she uses world data and not just data for the US – but it is nevertheless interesting.

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By: Paul Price https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010/#comment-4553 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 21:13:51 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010#comment-4553 Good stuff. Is the curve for
Good stuff. Is the curve for total US energy consumption (the sum of the curves shown) continuing to increase or is it flattening at all? Presumably exporting energy intensive manufacturing to China etc has had some effect as well as energy efficiency measures? 
 
Relatedly, a very cool, Sankey-style, interactive view of the world energy outlook to 2050 by the International Energy agency is available at http://www.iea.org/etp/explore/#.UCoBFBkbgA4.twitter

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By: David Eakin https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010/#comment-4552 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 20:56:51 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010#comment-4552 I think it would be much more
I think it would be much more interesting to be able to see more of a stratified display of each of the main outflow categories for the same time period (e.g., for residential: heating, AC, DHW, electric baseline). I suspect that the residential increases in this timeframe have much more to do with increased AC and entertainment (computer equipment, phones, video equipment) costs – which will probably grow over time regardless of the economy in general.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010/#comment-4551 Wed, 22 Aug 2012 19:07:32 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=us-energy-flows-inputs-and-outputs-1995-to-2010#comment-4551 Melissa B.
Melissa B.: You’re welcome. It’s hard to compete against ‘easy’ energy with a high energy return on energy invested (EROEI) and all the advantages of incumbency.  
 
Steve L.: Ah, thanks for correcting my mistaken interpretation of your statement. I’m sure the EIA has a chart like that somewhere, but I imagine that even with all the growth of wind and solar over the past 3 decades, it probably barely registers when compared with the other sources shown there.

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