Comments on: 61 Things We Should Ban to Improve Home Building https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/61-things-we-should-ban-improve-home-building/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Sun, 18 Apr 2021 18:37:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Gray https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/61-things-we-should-ban-improve-home-building/#comment-10784 Wed, 16 Aug 2017 13:28:05 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=61-things-we-should-ban-to-improve-home-building#comment-10784 Thanks for the reply.
Thanks for the reply.
I am not a construction kind of guy, nor builder. Steep learning curve here on everything. Which is why I am asking for input before we settle for a builder of our barndominium.
So now I will go and learn about all those items you listed. Oh, my background is industrial power plants so home builds is not even close to my skill set lol…thanks again…..

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By: David Eakin https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/61-things-we-should-ban-improve-home-building/#comment-10761 Mon, 14 Aug 2017 16:22:34 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=61-things-we-should-ban-to-improve-home-building#comment-10761 In reply to Gray.

Why would you want to
Why would you want to insulate between metal wall joists and provide so much thermal bridging? Why not do what is becoming best industry practice and consider framing, sheathing and insulating different areas for different purposes? Plan ahead for installation of window/door extension jambs for “outie” installation. Sheath the outside with Huber ZipWall/tape for the air barrier; insulate on top of that with Roxul; create a rain air gap with 1x3s running vertically; install insect guards at top/bottom of air gap; install cladding of choice. If you really must install insulation between the metal wall frame then you could go with more Roxul (to better wick moisture away from the cavity).

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By: Gray https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/61-things-we-should-ban-improve-home-building/#comment-10760 Sun, 13 Aug 2017 21:47:11 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=61-things-we-should-ban-to-improve-home-building#comment-10760 We are living in a metal
We are living in a metal building with a finished out studio apartment, until our house sells. So we are learning about foam insulation, cooling etc.
I did notice the kinks in the octopus ducts of our house (on the market) Tasked to maintain 21,00 tons of R-11 machines in two large power plants, working with engineers at all levels for HVAC systems and machine reliability home builds just rub me wrong. (especially tract spec houses) So here’s my point/questions for you seasoned guys.
We will downsize to about a 1700 sq-ft house, metal frame house. Think Mueller building. 2 x 4 walls drive me nuts since most tradesmen (sic) hog out so much for plumbing I’m left wondering how a load bearing wall holds up! So, looking at 2 x 6 walls. Also learning about ductless systems to cool living room, kitchen/dining room (a open concept design) and maybe a split ductless unit for the bedrooms. allows to better control temps in unoccupied rooms, I’m thinking…
So for a metal building; is there is a good combo of radiant barrier sheathing prior to skinning building up and then foaming out the inside prior or after framing? Want to reduce radiant heat entry and cold weather internal heat loss..
Also, for HVAC design, fiberboard duct systems, sheet metal? No, I do not want round flex duct any longer, those kinks just reduce air flow efficiency and has to many negatives to consider. Since this will not be a tract house it will be built by a contractor we have a say in what we want and prefer, so any knowledge that can be gleaned from here will be greatly appreciated!

Look for to a reply one day tanks folks…..!

On steep learning curve for our final home as we are looking into the retirement horizon on our homestead.

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By: Frank Baker https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/61-things-we-should-ban-improve-home-building/#comment-10699 Thu, 13 Jul 2017 12:51:30 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=61-things-we-should-ban-to-improve-home-building#comment-10699 SIPs, RIPs and ICFs address
SIPs, RIPs and ICFs address most of the serious issues noted: band joists, attics, air tightness, foam shrinkage, excess wood, thermal bridging

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By: JC https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/61-things-we-should-ban-improve-home-building/#comment-10644 Wed, 14 Jun 2017 14:46:21 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=61-things-we-should-ban-to-improve-home-building#comment-10644 In reply to Avery Ray Colter.

That would be property taxes.
That would be property taxes. 😉

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By: Kent https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/61-things-we-should-ban-improve-home-building/#comment-10643 Tue, 13 Jun 2017 04:08:47 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=61-things-we-should-ban-to-improve-home-building#comment-10643 #56 should be a target but
#56 should be a target but then we lose much of the entertainment! 😉

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By: David Eakin https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/61-things-we-should-ban-improve-home-building/#comment-10642 Tue, 13 Jun 2017 01:50:46 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=61-things-we-should-ban-to-improve-home-building#comment-10642 In reply to Jc.

True, but only if the house
True, but only if the house is kept modernized, the location has a high demand for that type of housing (when you decide to sell), newer (younger) buyers want to live in that type of house with that layout/location/lack of amenities. Too many “ifs” to guarantee that residences are truly a source of wealth. If you total all the resources (both time and money) you continue to pour into a house while living there it is, at best, a hedge against renting because everybody still has to live somewhere. But think of what better uses you could use your resources if you had a different view.

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By: Armando Cobo https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/61-things-we-should-ban-improve-home-building/#comment-10641 Mon, 12 Jun 2017 21:27:44 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=61-things-we-should-ban-to-improve-home-building#comment-10641 In reply to Bill Swanson.

Bill – I designed a house a
Bill – I designed a house a few years back for handicap clients that needed no steps to the main floor. What I did was to install 2″ rigid foam against the concrete on the inside, then we framed a 2×4 wall 17 1/2 shorter than the basement to accommodate 18″ floor trusses and 1 1/2″ of the sill plate so we could install 1 1/8″ floor sheathing over the trusses and treated sill plate. You still have a 1 1/2″ rise from concrete to wood floor, but you could ramp it with concrete or wood. You still end up with 1 1/2″ rim joist, but it is the best solution I’ve done.
I also designed a house 2 years a go with a pier and beam conditioned crawl where the concrete wall had a reversed brick ledge to set the 18″ floor trusses in it. You need a sill plate under the trusses and a second sill plate for the bottom plate of the perimeter wall. The top of the wall was 6″ wide, so a 2×6 sill plate took must of the width and we install the floor sheathing right to 1/4″ off the edge of the concrete. Not step up anywhere, however, the trusses were 1 1/4″ short on each end to accommodate 1″ of rigid foam between the concrete and the truss ends, to avoid rot on the trusses later on.
If you have more questions, go to my website and call or email me. I hope those two ideas work for you.

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By: Thomas A. Peterson https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/61-things-we-should-ban-improve-home-building/#comment-10640 Mon, 12 Jun 2017 19:11:07 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=61-things-we-should-ban-to-improve-home-building#comment-10640 Great list Allison and I do
Great list Allison and I do believe that some could be eliminated right now. The others will require more thinking to find better ways and/or consumers need to shift their preferences. I do agree with Andrew MacDonald about skylights. I would like to add in another fad, light tubes, which if their benefit were ever compared in a lifecycle analysis to CFs or LEDs, I believe that their payback would be measured in millennials.

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By: Thomas A. Peterson https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/61-things-we-should-ban-improve-home-building/#comment-10639 Mon, 12 Jun 2017 18:46:48 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=61-things-we-should-ban-to-improve-home-building#comment-10639 In reply to Bill Swanson.

If you accept Allison’s
If you accept Allison’s recommendation of 12″ walls, then I have a some ideas for you to explore. I would suggest a double-wall (2×6 & 2X4) with an ICF foundation. An interior band joist can be hung off of the exterior 2X6 wall and floor joists can be hung off of that band offset from the exterior studs. There are a lot of additional details with vapor/air barriers and window & door openings, but I could write a book here to explain it all. I do not believe in eliminating band joists for structural reasons (including convincing a code officer that you don’t need one), but there are ways to pretty effectively insulate them.

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