Comments on: The Secrets of Liars — How to Detect an Internet Solar Energy Scam https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Fri, 12 Jun 2015 21:49:13 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Nigel Gastall https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam/#comment-6307 Fri, 12 Jun 2015 21:49:13 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam#comment-6307 I have just viewed a new
I have just viewed a new twist on this: Electricity Freedom.Now they say you can power your house on a few handfuls of grass! 
See this website BUT DON’T BUY THE SYSTEM its not possible to get more energy out than has gone in. 
http://electricityfreedom.com/video/?subid=thdadoded12JunA&suid;=ta7m64pnnk26hfc81m9ncnk704 
The link came from a medical email that I am subscribed to.

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By: Chip Borkenhagen https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam/#comment-6306 Fri, 16 May 2014 04:26:00 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam#comment-6306 You guys all missed it!!! If
You guys all missed it!!! If you don’t do anything after the video plays (in about one or two minutes) he comes back on and say “Still here? Still want an even better deal? Instead of the $47 of my very last offer, if you push the buy now button RIGHT NOW, I will let you have this incredible package for only $27!!!” 
 
Nope, I didn’t push it, but have been wondering about it for a day now. I’m glad I won’t be referred to as a “moron” or “stupid”. I would hope that everyone here can understand we each have different levels and dynamics in understanding, trust, and desires to do the right thing.

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By: William Bradford https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam/#comment-6305 Thu, 06 Mar 2014 21:13:17 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam#comment-6305 Interestingly, if anyone
Interestingly, if anyone wants to try this, there seem to be plenty of videos on Youtube about how to build your own solar panels cheaply. I have no idea if it’s impossible and requires a “clean room” or not… At least the YouTube instructions don’t seem to be asking for money.

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By: Terry B https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam/#comment-6304 Sun, 02 Mar 2014 21:56:17 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam#comment-6304 I knew it was a scam from the
I knew it was a scam from the very beginning. The mispelled word “Theif” 
Thief

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By: Al https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam/#comment-6303 Tue, 28 Jan 2014 02:19:30 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam#comment-6303 Update to my post January 22
Update to my post January 22/14 
All three charges were cancelled and nothing is being shipped to me. I got lucky. 
Cheers all. 
 
Al

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By: Jonathan Allen https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam/#comment-6302 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 22:24:30 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam#comment-6302 In spite of these scams,
In spite of these scams, there are plenty of honest legitimate solar energy companies. When crooks tarnish a basically beneficial industry. They not only hurt the “good guys” but provide anecdotal propaganda for the detractors in the fossil fuel businesses.

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By: David Tiffany https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam/#comment-6301 Sun, 26 Jan 2014 21:09:02 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam#comment-6301 LoL, i have a real way to
LoL, i have a real way to turn your electricity into revenue.  
 
Ive been seeing this ad for awhile and thought it was a load of crap from the get go, but finally since I started mining cryptocurrencies with my video cards i figure i might as well see what it has to say. 
 
$92 hardly buys a cheeseburger there is no way its going to buy all the components i need to make my money back on power. Ill just stick with paying my local power company 13 cents per kwh to mine crypto currencies with my 10 video cards, sell the scrypt coins for bitcoins then cash out to pay the power company.

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By: Dave https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam/#comment-6300 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 14:23:06 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam#comment-6300 My absolute favorite part of
My absolute favorite part of the video is when the fictitious daughter comes to her Dad, cloaked in her favorite blanket, lips blue, teddy bear in tow and says Daddy, I’m COLD. This is when the phony father decides hes MAD! 
MAD at the greedy government electrical company! ( I was unaware that the Government owned/operated all of the electrical companies ) MAD at the evil Mother Nature!! And most of all…. MAD at himself!!! 
I almost fell out of my office chair laughing so hard. Its a brilliant concept using parents need to take care of their children to make them feel they need to spend money on snake oil.  
What a catch 22 when using those charged up emotions actually has you do the thing your trying to protect your children from. 
Its an old and well manicured technique still being utilized in mainstream sales.

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By: Al https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam/#comment-6299 Thu, 23 Jan 2014 01:58:40 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam#comment-6299 ACK!! Sadly, I did click…
ACK!! Sadly, I did click… yes… I fell for it… but.. it showed pay only 4.95 now and 47.00 in a month. We will ship and if you don’t like the stuff, we will take it back and refund the money. So I did… however, the site kept saying my card was incorrect (PayPal card). So I double checked the code and entered again… nope… still a problem. I changed the ship to address.. negative.. darn… put the unit number in the proper spot and clicked again. Zip.. wont work… “we can’t process your request. Darn it… then.. checked PayPal. THREE charges pending. Not for 4.99 as promised but 14.99 each one. grrr.. I emailed and requested a cancellation of all three fees. I also did a bit more research and found a telephone number in Ontario Canada for this company.. funny.. I thought it was an America company. Either way. I will report back on what happened when I get more information. Today is January 21/14 about 1 pm pacific time. Wish me luck. 
 
Al

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By: Cheryl Hanson https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam/#comment-6298 Mon, 20 Jan 2014 23:43:34 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=the-secrets-of-liars-how-to-detect-an-internet-solar-energy-scam#comment-6298 Thank you for the honest and
Thank you for the honest and well written article that saves us all many minutes and dollars to inefficient solutions. It is always best to hire a professional when working with electricity, as a matter of safety for us all. I think the most interesting part to this story is that there is a need to empower ourselves to become better stewards in our neighborhoods and homes. With a library card, or a few clicks on the internet, we all can eventually add value to our bottom line at home with smart investment choices. It is good to remember, if it is quick it often is not easy or as inexpensive a solution as we would like. Invest in your future, and you will always find a great solution for the long term.

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