Comments on: Can You Ventilate a Home with Attic Air? https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Thu, 05 Oct 2023 17:42:50 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Jack https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air/#comment-9516 Tue, 16 Aug 2016 20:23:37 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air#comment-9516 Great, thanks for confirming!
Great, thanks for confirming!

I have 2 related questions that I have not been able to find referenced on your blog or elsewhere: First, where should the attic return be physically located? I have a central return on the air handler in my 1960s home. Currently I have an attic return (just a grille in the ceiling) at one of the ends of my ranch home. But I can smell and feel the more humid attic return air flowing into the end room (no door) as it flows to the central return. I’m considering putting the return grille in the ceiling of the central return closet instead. Good idea?

Second, what should be done in the winter with the attic supply and return? The air handler will no longer dehumidify the attic air because it is in heating mode, not AC. Of course, the attic air should not need to be dehumidified in the winter. Will the attic supply, blowing in warm air, cause potential problems with condensation on the roof deck since the roof deck will probably be colder than the attic air? In short, should the attic supply and return be *disabled* (sealed) in the winter?

Thanks again – I have leared a LOT from your blog!

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air/#comment-9515 Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:44:34 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air#comment-9515 Jack, you are correct. Adding
Jack, you are correct. Adding a little bit of supply air and putting a return in the attic will condition the space and minimize the possibility of moisture problems. That’s what Joe was talking about in the Cool Hand Luke article. But recall he said it’s against code. Putting smoke detectors in the duct system so that it shuts down if there’s a fire is done commercially to overcome the problem, so that’s one way to do it while reducing the risks.

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By: Jack https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air/#comment-9514 Tue, 16 Aug 2016 19:05:19 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air#comment-9514 Allison: this article makes
Allison: this article makes good sense to me, but will you please clarify one thing?

If the attic in the article were a sealed attic (e.g., open-cell foam on roofline) rather than a ventilated attic, then the strategy of adding a return on the plenum in the attic would be exactly what Joe Lstiburek recommends in his “cool hand Luke” article, correct?

I am located in the hot and humid south and recently sealed my attic. After doing so, I found high humidity in the attic and responded by adding supply air which seems to have corrected the problem. I am now planning to add a small return grill to the ceiling of the central return closet (air handler location) to finish the job. In other words, I am planning to do the exact thing that you pillory in this article! Can you confirm that adding a return to the air handler is NOT a bad idea when the attic is *sealed*? Thanks!

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By: Ray Austin https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air/#comment-9513 Tue, 16 Aug 2016 15:11:17 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air#comment-9513 Whiskey as a solution
Whiskey as a solution followed by I ‘remember’?

Allison, I think you are doing it wrong. Whiskey is intended as a magical liquid that makes you forget, not remember.

Yeah I was thinking we would just forget this fresh air dilemma and just go off and get bombed somewhere.

Anyone?

Let’s face it, you come across one of these and you’re going to wish you were bombed. LOL.

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By: Kris https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air/#comment-9512 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 23:17:49 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air#comment-9512 IMO the real travesty is the
IMO the real travesty is the choice of filter. I would have paid the extra $5 and bought a high efficiency filter from Home Depot. *sarcasm* 🙂

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By: Cameron Taylor https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air/#comment-9511 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 21:58:58 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air#comment-9511 Not a solution that Bill Ding
Not a solution that Bill Ding would approve, that’s for certain! 😊

Worth noting is that this attic air intake will pressurize the house like a balloon. So not only are they creating extra work at the air handler with the attic air, a good amount of inadequately conditioned air will be pushed right back outside through the envelope. It’s lose lose.

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By: Steve Waclo https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air/#comment-9510 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 20:59:53 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air#comment-9510 Following up on Chris’
Following up on Chris’ observation, “Come and get me lord, I’ve seen it all.”

Here in the dry desert of Northern Nevada, where cooling season diurnal temperatures can swing 50F (!!), I use a turbine fan to pull home air into the attic after midnight, with micro-screened open windows providing relief air, and am able to pull inside temps to near outside ambient by morning. My wife is not thrilled waking to 68F but that rises by early afternoon and tops out around 80F in early evening. Did I mention 10% RH?

I would luv to have been a fly on the wall when Bruce gently inquired of the home owner where the “hole in the return” concept came from. 😄

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By: Dan Geist https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air/#comment-9509 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 19:06:10 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air#comment-9509 You forgot to mention the
You forgot to mention the fact that the cuts on the ductboard itself will likely shed fiberglass particles into the home. Thankfully there’s a a filter on the air handler’s intake that’ll take care of 100% of those, right?

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By: John Proctor https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air/#comment-9508 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:56:33 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air#comment-9508 Allison — This is an example
Allison — This is an example of the principle that there are many more bad ways to do things than there are good ways. You might add a link to one of your posts that talks about the extremely good principle of sealing the plane between the conditioned space and the attic.

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By: Chris Brown https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air/#comment-9507 Fri, 05 Aug 2016 18:39:39 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=can-you-ventilate-a-home-with-attic-air#comment-9507 I would say that now I have
I would say that now I have seen it all, but then again……

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