Comments on: Can a Heat Pump Work in Minnesota? https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-a-heat-pump-work-in-minnesota/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Fri, 28 Jan 2022 20:55:30 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Avery Colter https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-a-heat-pump-work-in-minnesota/#comment-19301 Fri, 28 Jan 2022 20:55:30 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5540#comment-19301 I’m reading this from the toasty California Delta, land of year-round fire season, where sub-zero almost never happens, but we do go sub-freezing occasionally. I happened to go to my panel to adjust my Trane communicating zone-controlled ducted system, and noticed the compressor power gauge was showing the graphic bar in green color. It’s usually red for heating and blue for cooling. What is this green, I asked myself. The answer was that it was in defrost cycle. So that’s my question for Minnesota: during these sub-zero times, do systems there go into defrost cycle often, or is the outside air humidity so low at that point that sublimation coil icing isn’t even an issue?

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By: Michael https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-a-heat-pump-work-in-minnesota/#comment-18820 Wed, 12 Jan 2022 17:22:39 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5540#comment-18820 In reply to Ben Stevens.

Hi Ben, thanks for adding in the nugget of installing a heat pump water heater in MN. I am considering installing one to replace an older gas model in the unfinished basement of my 1920s home – I’m about an hour south of the Cities. It gets chilly down there – mid 40s, and I am concerned about taking some of that heat out. I don’t want to freeze any pipes. What has your experience been?

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-a-heat-pump-work-in-minnesota/#comment-17764 Sat, 20 Nov 2021 19:19:54 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5540#comment-17764 In reply to Cindi.

Cindi, I believe it’s about 2,500 sf. Yes, it’s in climate zone 6.

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By: Cindi https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-a-heat-pump-work-in-minnesota/#comment-17763 Sat, 20 Nov 2021 18:25:47 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5540#comment-17763 Alison, can you tell us the sf of Gary’s house is? And is he CZ 6? Thanks

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By: Cindi https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-a-heat-pump-work-in-minnesota/#comment-17761 Sat, 20 Nov 2021 18:21:11 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5540#comment-17761 In reply to Patrick Huelman.

How do you get super efficient hot water from a mini-split heating system? Do you mean to say you “got” a high efficiency hot water heater as well?

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By: Saugar Maripuri https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-a-heat-pump-work-in-minnesota/#comment-17492 Sun, 31 Oct 2021 13:48:24 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5540#comment-17492 In reply to RoyC.

Electrical outages will be more common and NO house can provide heat without electricity. Most (all??) furnaces and boilers need electricity to operate. We are installing solar batteries which will provide backup power during outages. What happened in Texas is a travesty and will happen in other areas too.

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By: Saugar Maripuri https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-a-heat-pump-work-in-minnesota/#comment-17491 Sun, 31 Oct 2021 13:45:47 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5540#comment-17491 In reply to Jake.

Most heat pumps installed in Minnesota include a backup source of heat — I have an 8 kW resistive heater in my air handler that can be automatically triggered by the thermostat if the heat pump can’t keep up. My unit is rated down to -5 F and this is our first fall/winter with it, but it should be a huge upgrade from my old electric heater that used up to 1.5 megawatts a month during winter.

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By: Truett Neathery https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-a-heat-pump-work-in-minnesota/#comment-15228 Fri, 11 Jun 2021 03:23:24 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5540#comment-15228 In reply to Jake.

Folks with small children and pets have solved the problem of access to a hot woodstove years ago.

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By: David Butler https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-a-heat-pump-work-in-minnesota/#comment-14171 Sat, 17 Apr 2021 16:25:26 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5540#comment-14171 In reply to leif Jenkinson.

@leif, you didn’t mention how much you typically pay for fuel oil, but if your marginal winter electric rate is 17 cents per kWh (i.e., excluding all fixed costs in your electric bill), a mini-split would cost roughly $1.50 to $2.00 for each therm (100,000 BTU) of heat produced (0.17 x 29.3 divided by COP, which varies with outdoor temperature). Seasonally, we can assume an average of roughly $1.75 per therm. Keep in mind you’d still need to use the Toyostove to supplement the heat pump during the coldest weather.

A gallon of heating oil produces approximately 1.39 therms of heat (139,000 BTU). Your Toyostove is rated at 92%, which works out to about 1.27 therms delivered to the house. So the break-even point for the Toyostove versus a mini-split would be about $2.22 per gallon ($1.75 x 1.27 therms per gallon). I’m curious how much you paid for fuel oil last winter…?

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By: leif Jenkinson https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/can-a-heat-pump-work-in-minnesota/#comment-14119 Tue, 13 Apr 2021 19:25:01 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5540#comment-14119 South Central Alaska, 80 air miles S of anchorage. 70 degrees is hot, 80 almost unknown. Winter, these days, might reach minus 10, but 12 to 8 years ago we had regular periods of minus 20-30-at-night. Can’t imagine needing cooling. No access to natural gas . Present heat: EPA approved woodstove with fans, & 2 Panisonic Whisper Greens for air distribution for 1200 square foot 1-story house. The older heat is a newer oil-fired Toyo, Laser 73, as backup & for being gone more hours than a load in the woodstove, but it can heat the house as long as power doesn’t go out. It’s 110 V,s might get a minimum job-sight portable generator. 17 cents kW price on electric, then fees. Does Mini-split makes sense, especially since firewood is getting harder to get? It’s been free for 12 years, so imagine how many gallons of heating oil I didn’t burn. I’m no longer fully able-bodied, either.

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