Comments on: A Dangerous Gas Water Heater Hidden in Plain View https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-dangerous-gas-water-heater-hidden-in-plain-view/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Mon, 05 Jul 2021 19:04:12 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Albany Landlord https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-dangerous-gas-water-heater-hidden-in-plain-view/#comment-15729 Mon, 05 Jul 2021 19:04:12 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=6013#comment-15729 The water heater is also not strapped in – which is the first thing I saw in the picture. ANd it’s elevated to make it easier to fall & fall further. My vague understanding is Mexico is on a fault line and is likely more susceptible to earthquakes than where I live.

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By: Roy Collver https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-dangerous-gas-water-heater-hidden-in-plain-view/#comment-15692 Thu, 01 Jul 2021 21:59:27 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=6013#comment-15692 In reply to Allison Bailes.

Many safety authorities in many jurisdictions have archived accident reports for fatality and near-fatality incidents on-line these days. It sometimes takes a bit of effort to find them – but they make for grim reflection. These resources should be mandatory reading for engineers, inspection persons, suppliers and tradespeople – anyone who works with combustion appliances.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-dangerous-gas-water-heater-hidden-in-plain-view/#comment-15691 Thu, 01 Jul 2021 19:58:53 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=6013#comment-15691 In reply to Albert.

Albert, I don’t know. That pipe on the wall behind the water may be it.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-dangerous-gas-water-heater-hidden-in-plain-view/#comment-15690 Thu, 01 Jul 2021 19:57:03 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=6013#comment-15690 In reply to Roy Collver.

Roy, I totally agree that unvented gas appliances are lunacy.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-dangerous-gas-water-heater-hidden-in-plain-view/#comment-15689 Thu, 01 Jul 2021 19:51:43 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=6013#comment-15689 In reply to Bob Rueter.

Bob, the only good thing about that scenario is that with the dryer running and backdrafting the water heater, most of the exhaust gases and carbon monoxide would get exhausted through the dryer. But as soon as the dryer goes off, exhaust gases will collect in the room if the water heater were still operating. What could make it worse is if you had leaky return ducts in there to pull in the CO and distribute it to the bedrooms.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-dangerous-gas-water-heater-hidden-in-plain-view/#comment-15688 Thu, 01 Jul 2021 19:46:57 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=6013#comment-15688 In reply to Bill Hill.

Bill, excellent point. Incomplete combustion occurs when there’s not enough oxygen and that requires enough air movement through the burner.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-dangerous-gas-water-heater-hidden-in-plain-view/#comment-15687 Thu, 01 Jul 2021 19:43:25 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=6013#comment-15687 In reply to LeeH.

Lee, the closer you look at the photos, the more problems you’ll find. On the amount of rise required, though, the code (NFPA 54) says all that’s needed is 1/4″ per foot, not 45 degrees.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-dangerous-gas-water-heater-hidden-in-plain-view/#comment-15686 Thu, 01 Jul 2021 19:40:07 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=6013#comment-15686 In reply to Mike Reavis.

Mike, my guess is that the answer to your question is no.

Yeah, I’ve seen some bad installations of combustion appliance venting myself and even more photos. It’s definitely a problem.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-dangerous-gas-water-heater-hidden-in-plain-view/#comment-15685 Thu, 01 Jul 2021 19:36:19 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=6013#comment-15685 In reply to Paul Gessler.

Paul, yes, it’s similar. A recirculating hood can remove some of the stuff from the exhaust, but it depends on the type of filter and how recently it’s been replaced. Ventless gas fireplaces are worse, though, because they dump all of their exhaust gases into the home.

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By: Albert https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-dangerous-gas-water-heater-hidden-in-plain-view/#comment-15653 Wed, 30 Jun 2021 05:41:32 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=6013#comment-15653 Is there a T & P device on this water heater?

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