Comments on: A House Needs to Breathe…Or Does It? https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/house-needs-breatheor-does-it/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Thu, 01 Apr 2021 12:56:53 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: abailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/house-needs-breatheor-does-it/#comment-13486 Tue, 22 Sep 2020 15:07:03 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=a-house-needs-to-breathe-or-does-it#comment-13486 In reply to Anton Shepelev.

Anton, I’m not an IT guy so I

Anton, I’m not an IT guy so I don’t know the answer to your first question.  Which means I don’t know the second either.  I can answer the third one, though.  We used to have the blog on a different platform and after a while I started closing comments after one year.  Most of the comments on earlier articles seemed to be spam, so it made managing that easier.  In 2016, we changed to a different platform and since then, all new articles still have comments open.  The cutoff for commenting on old articles is probably around 2015.

Feel free to ask your question here.

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By: abailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/house-needs-breatheor-does-it/#comment-13485 Tue, 22 Sep 2020 15:03:12 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=a-house-needs-to-breathe-or-does-it#comment-13485 In reply to Jeff Muir.

Jeff, sorry for the delayed

Jeff, sorry for the delayed response here.  It’s certainly possible to add spray foam insulation to the attic of an existing home, but putting it in the walls usually requires having the walls opened up.  There are some foams that can be installed in closed cavities, but you need a really good installer to do that right.

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By: abailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/house-needs-breatheor-does-it/#comment-13484 Tue, 22 Sep 2020 15:00:09 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=a-house-needs-to-breathe-or-does-it#comment-13484 In reply to Jim Navotney.

Jim, your information is

Jim, your information is seriously out of date.  So tell me, how does it improve the indoor air quality to allow musty, moldy air from the crawl space to come in through random leaks that should have been sealed?  How many people have been made more healthy by breathing gasoline fumes, car exhaust, and pesticides from the garage?  How does extra dirt in the air that got sucked through that dead squirrel in the attic help anyone breathe better?  The answers are (i) it doesn’t, (ii) zero, and (iii) it doesn’t.

Now, you almost had the right answer when you said “if you do not bring in outside air.”  But then you went and prescribed massive overventilation.  To “fully exchange the indoor air many times per hour” would be ridiculously expensive for homeowners, either in buying a lot more mechanical equipment than they really need (and paying the energy bills) or in creating new indoor air quality and health problems by losing control of humidity and temperature.  That’s a recipe for mold.

Your knowledge of residential building codes isn’t accurate either.  You wrote that “all new home building code require outside air intakes,” and that’s simply not true.  Yes, the model codes have requirements for mechanical ventilation, and they’re tied to the infiltration rate of the house.  In some places, meeting the air leakage code requirement means you’re also required to put in ventilation, but not everywhere.  And there’s the actual codes as adopted by states and local jurisdictions.  Here in Georgia, for example, new homes must test below 5 ACH50 but they don’t need ventilation unless they’re below 3 ACH50.  I agree with you, though, that all new homes should be airtight enough to be required to have mechancial ventilation.  Ventilation rates haven’t been specified in air changes per hour for a long time now, but the current rates in the code would come out as a few tenths of an air change per hour and not anywhere near the “many” air changes you suggest.

But airtightness and whole-house mechanical ventilation are only one aspect of good indoor air quality.  Local ventilation, especially with the kitchen range hood, is really important.  Filtration with high-MERV filters helps tremendously, especially with PM2.5.  And above all, source control keeps bad stuff out from the beginning.

Now, you’re in luck, Jim, because I’m writing a book this topic, and it’ll be out next year.  Click the banner at the top of this page to subscribe to updates, and you’ll be one of the first to know when it’s available. 

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By: Jim Navotney https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/house-needs-breatheor-does-it/#comment-13480 Tue, 22 Sep 2020 14:11:38 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=a-house-needs-to-breathe-or-does-it#comment-13480 Actually yes a house needs to
Actually yes a house needs to breathe.
The trend towards air tight homes is killing people.
Covid merely exposed this danger to the world.
A tightly sealed home has a very toxic atmosphere if you do not bring in outside air and fully exchange the indoor air many times per hour.
The greater the percentage of outside air the healthier the atmosphere in the home.
This is why all new home building code require outside air intakes
just like the air handlers that have been used in commercial buildings for decades.
This doesn’t set well with many save the planet types but facts are facts.
EVERY home should have outside air intakes tied directly into the HVAC system and windows should be kept open whenever possible

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By: Anton Shepelev https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/house-needs-breatheor-does-it/#comment-13127 Wed, 10 Jun 2020 12:56:13 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=a-house-needs-to-breathe-or-does-it#comment-13127 I have a couple of tiny
I have a couple of tiny preparatory questions before I can post the main one. First—what formatting syntax do the comments support: is it Markdown or some custom syntax? If the latter, where is it documented? Second—when does a blog post stop accepting new comments? What if I have a question about an old blog post, e.g. the one titled “What Happens When You Put a Plastic Vapor Barrier in Your Wall?” Of course, I can try to ask it here since the book includes that topic too…

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By: Jeff Muir https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/house-needs-breatheor-does-it/#comment-13088 Thu, 21 May 2020 14:28:52 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=a-house-needs-to-breathe-or-does-it#comment-13088 Allison, I am a homeowner in
Allison, I am a homeowner in Columbia, SC, and came across your blog as I was “researching” foam insulation online. My house was built in 2008 in an older, established neighborhood in Columbia. We did not use foam insulation and i wish that we had for both energy and sound purposes. Is it even remotely feasible to consider adding foam insulation in the walls and ceilings now? I think i know the answer to my question but figured i would at least ask an expert.
Thank you!
Jeff

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By: Demian Pedone https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/house-needs-breatheor-does-it/#comment-13041 Mon, 27 Apr 2020 06:02:16 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=a-house-needs-to-breathe-or-does-it#comment-13041 In reply to abailes.

What about older homes that
What about older homes that are being restored, rather than wholesale renovated? My house was built in 1930, and has no insulation and the original windows. We pulled the 1950s-era furnace a couple of years ago, and have been heating with the wood-stove in the basement, and we’re constantly battling humidity problems in the winter. Have you any articles that might help chart a good middle course; we really don’t want to gut the house and try to make it modern, but I’m getting tired of scrubbing the walls behind bookshelves as part of spring cleaning. Part of what makes us nervous is understanding that a lot of old houses weren’t nearly as tightly built as new ones, and I’m loath to do something like blow insulation into the wall cavities if water is infiltrating anywhere…

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By: abailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/house-needs-breatheor-does-it/#comment-12975 Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:12:03 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=a-house-needs-to-breathe-or-does-it#comment-12975 In reply to Ken .

Ken, there’s nothing wrong

Ken, there’s nothing wrong with touching cellulose or open-cell spray polyurethane foam (SPF) insulation.  If you damage the SPF, yes, it can create problems by allowing air leakage and not insulating as well as it should.  Likewise, if you disturb the cellulose so it’s not thick enough in some places, you’ll have excess heat flow in that area.

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By: abailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/house-needs-breatheor-does-it/#comment-12974 Fri, 17 Apr 2020 17:08:00 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=a-house-needs-to-breathe-or-does-it#comment-12974 In reply to Sam.

Sam, yes, I’ve got to finish

Sam, yes, I’ve got to finish writing the book and then go through the publishing process.  My plan is to have it available by the end of 2020.  If you subscribe on the Publishizer page for the book (link below), you’ll get all the updates about the status of the book and be alerted when it’s available.  You’ll also find out here in the Energy Vanguard Blog.

A House Needs to Breathe…Or Does It?

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By: Ken https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/house-needs-breatheor-does-it/#comment-12973 Fri, 17 Apr 2020 15:51:50 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=a-house-needs-to-breathe-or-does-it#comment-12973 I have a customer asking
I have a customer asking about an floored attic space that was sprayed with open cell foam and also had blown in cellulose. Someone told him where they touch could create problems? Is this valid?

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