Comments on: A Heating Load Rule of Thumb That Worked https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-heating-load-rule-of-thumb-that-worked/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:52:40 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-heating-load-rule-of-thumb-that-worked/#comment-15211 Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:52:40 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5851#comment-15211 In reply to RoyC.

Oh, you’re talking about how realistic it is. No, a HERS rating doesn’t track well with that either.

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By: RoyC https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-heating-load-rule-of-thumb-that-worked/#comment-15210 Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:41:04 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5851#comment-15210 In reply to Allison Bailes.

Allison, it looks more sophisticated than a rule of thumb, but it doesn’t necessarily point you in the right direction. HERS scores don’t give you any credit for building a smaller house that has the same useable floor area (e.g., less hallways and other dead spaces). They also don’t give you any credit for building a house with less exterior surface area for a given floor area (e.g., two-story square houses vs. one-story long narrow houses). Thus, a lower HERS doesn’t necessarily mean lower energy use for the same basic function.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-heating-load-rule-of-thumb-that-worked/#comment-15209 Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:30:02 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5851#comment-15209 In reply to RoyC.

Roy, it’s been a while since I’ve thought about how HERS models the reference home, but there’s more to it than just floor area. It also has the same orientation, 18% window-to-floor area with windows equally distributed in the four cardinal directions… So it’s not anything like a rule of thumb.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-heating-load-rule-of-thumb-that-worked/#comment-15208 Thu, 10 Jun 2021 13:26:43 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5851#comment-15208 In reply to Norman Bunn.

Norman, yes, rules of thumb like that are OK just to get a sense of whether the loads are reasonable or not but shouldn’t be used for sizing or HVAC design.

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By: Norman Bunn https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-heating-load-rule-of-thumb-that-worked/#comment-15101 Fri, 04 Jun 2021 20:37:17 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5851#comment-15101 In reply to RoyC.

The same is true when the power company or my Sense energy monitor makes comparisons to other homes: it is always to sq ft and maybe the decade of construction

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By: RoyC https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-heating-load-rule-of-thumb-that-worked/#comment-15099 Fri, 04 Jun 2021 17:55:34 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5851#comment-15099 Allison, I agree with you that floor area is a bad metric for use in an equipment sizing rule. However, when we do HERS and other energy performance ratings, we are comparing the actual design to a “standard” design with the same floor area. Does that make sense?

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By: Norman Bunn https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-heating-load-rule-of-thumb-that-worked/#comment-15098 Fri, 04 Jun 2021 15:55:59 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=5851#comment-15098 Is there any value to a rule of thumb for a Pretty Good House in seeing if the load calcs are in line? For example, say you got a load calc showing an expectation of one ton for each 750 sq ft. Should that raise an alarm? I would think so. OTOH, a value of 1 ton per 1000 sq ft. might be “ok”.

Of course in my PGH, I did not rely on such. Instead I ran my own BEopt calcs and compared those results to the HVAC Manual J and the calcs run by my energy evaluator. The fact that they were in line with each other with minor variations gave me confidence in the result. Oh, and the 1 ton per 1000 “validated” these, too. 🙂

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