Comments on: The Advantages of Filter Grilles for Your HVAC System https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-advantages-of-filter-grilles-for-your-hvac-system/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Wed, 08 Jun 2022 20:21:03 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Henry Chinery, III https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-advantages-of-filter-grilles-for-your-hvac-system/#comment-27250 Sun, 15 May 2022 19:23:13 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7383#comment-27250 In reply to Allison Bailes.

I’m assuming he’s referring to installations where the return air duct in rooms has a high and low grill so you pull the hot air off the ceiling in Summer and the cold air off the floor in Winter. I had my house in Maryland retrofitted like this. When they built the house they put the sheet metal supply ducts for the upstairs in the outside walls in lieu of insulation. The return for the upstairs was a 20″ x 20″ grill going to two 2″ x 3″ (1.5″ x 2.5″) wall cavities with the sole plate cut open about 12″ in each cavity which ran through the floor joist to the same thing on the first floor. I gave up my pantry and some hall space to have supply and return ducts run to the upstairs with high and low returns in each bedroom. Finally had cool bedrooms in the Summer and warm bedrooms in the Winter. The house was built in 1982 and the old 3 ton York heat pump was still working in 2007 when I had everything redone with an Infinity 5 ton system with zoning. Also had a SunPure SP-200 air purifier (4″ MERV 13 filter, catalytic converter and UV lamps) installed and a Skuttle humidifier. When we sold the house in 2014, the air handler still looked like new inside.

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By: JC https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-advantages-of-filter-grilles-for-your-hvac-system/#comment-26580 Thu, 05 May 2022 13:27:01 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7383#comment-26580 I really like this approach and wish my current home had it.

Grill sizing and or tapping the edge of the filter is important. My mother had return grill filters which were not taped. Every time the system turned on it would suck/pull the filter up against the frame and then dropped it once the air handler turned off. The drop would make a “dong” sound and wake me up. Annoying as hell.

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By: David Butler https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-advantages-of-filter-grilles-for-your-hvac-system/#comment-26294 Thu, 28 Apr 2022 17:09:09 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7383#comment-26294 In reply to paul.

@Paul, since Allison didn’t reply, I’ll bite. Checking the specs for lattice and regular stamped filter grilles (re: Hart & Cooley catalog), the pressure drops, even at 400 FPM face velocity, are on the order of 0.02 IWC for stamped and 0.01 IWC for lattice. At the preferred 200 FPM face velocity, pressure drops are off the chart, but extrapolating, they’d be on the order of 0.005 and 0.003, respectively. So no, it would be silly to spend extra money on aluminum lattice grilles chasing efficiency! OTOH, you might prefer the look of lattice grilles. I personally don’t care for that look.

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By: David Butler https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-advantages-of-filter-grilles-for-your-hvac-system/#comment-26278 Thu, 28 Apr 2022 01:32:30 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7383#comment-26278 In reply to RoyC.

@Roy wrote: “I am guessing the payback on lower lifetime filter costs would be quite good.”

Absolutely! Not to mention reduced blower energy, assuming proper setup for as-built external static. In new construction, the additional first-cost to size filter grilles to achieve < 200 FPM face velocity is minimal.

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By: Cheryl https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-advantages-of-filter-grilles-for-your-hvac-system/#comment-26275 Thu, 28 Apr 2022 00:45:07 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7383#comment-26275 In reply to Allison Bailes.

Thank you, Allison!

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By: RoyC https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-advantages-of-filter-grilles-for-your-hvac-system/#comment-26270 Wed, 27 Apr 2022 20:59:36 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7383#comment-26270 We should also take into account that most 1″ filters from a given manufacturer are priced on efficiency rating only and not the filter face area size. In other words, you can usually buy a 24″x24″ filter for the same price as 12″x12″ filter. Thus, when installing new ductwork and return air grills, you should install the largest face area possible since a larger face area will result in lower pressure drops and longer filter life for the same filter price. The larger return filter grill might cost more, and the installation cost will be higher if the framing needs to be modified, but I am guessing the payback on lower lifetime filter costs would be quite good.

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By: paul https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-advantages-of-filter-grilles-for-your-hvac-system/#comment-26267 Wed, 27 Apr 2022 19:05:00 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7383#comment-26267 Allison, since your article is about improving air flow efficiency, can you comment on changing the standard stamped steel return grilles to Metalaire 3/4 inch aluminum fixed grilles? My home is sealed, my ducts are sealed and airflow rate has been adjusted for each register. However, it is an 80’s 2-story home and has 4 returns throughout, each a different size. Before totally revamping those, I’m considering changing out the return grilles to the more efficient fixed grilles and adding returns in the doors. I currently make sure doors stay cracked to ensure airflow. Is it worth the expense of aluminum fixed grilles for any efficiency gained?

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By: Henry Chinery https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-advantages-of-filter-grilles-for-your-hvac-system/#comment-26264 Wed, 27 Apr 2022 17:06:45 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7383#comment-26264 In reply to Cheryl.

Yes,it does eliminate the need for a filter at the air handler unit. Make sure the return ducts and filter grill is sealed as well to ensure that all return air is filtered.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-advantages-of-filter-grilles-for-your-hvac-system/#comment-26258 Wed, 27 Apr 2022 11:27:56 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7383#comment-26258 In reply to Danny Gough.

Danny: Yes, thanks for mentioning that. It’s a good idea for the supply-only ventilation system that’s popular here in the Southeast (central fan integrated supply) to have its own filtration anyway because it can bring in a lot of stuff – wasps, pollen, gnats…

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/the-advantages-of-filter-grilles-for-your-hvac-system/#comment-26257 Wed, 27 Apr 2022 11:07:16 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7383#comment-26257 In reply to danny orlando.

Absolutely true, Danny! (I put that in the footnote.)

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