Comments on: A Layered Approach to Indoor Air Quality https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-layered-approach-to-indoor-air-quality/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Mon, 14 Nov 2022 21:38:36 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Alexander G Riccio https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-layered-approach-to-indoor-air-quality/#comment-31971 Tue, 04 Oct 2022 22:44:49 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7740#comment-31971 🤣]]> Member of Team Airborne here! Thanks for advocating all the right things. I swear to God, I’m tired of hearing local HVAC companies pushing ionizers.

Anyways, I’ll also plug my own little part here. If you carry a CO2 meter around, I’d love it if you share your data with my crowdsourced co2 tracking project, CO2 trackers!
https://www.co2trackers.com/home

Dr. Kashif Pirzada runs a similar and slicker project, The Raven Clean Air app, but mine was first! 😉🤣

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By: Marty R https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-layered-approach-to-indoor-air-quality/#comment-31777 Fri, 09 Sep 2022 05:58:20 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7740#comment-31777 In reply to Jerald Fuller.

The Honeywell filters are about 3 to 4 inches deep, but they have frames that mount in conventional 1-inch deep holders, as long as there is sufficient room behind the filter holder to allow for the depth of the filter plus several inches for air transport. In our case, we have two returns, one that was built into a space adjacent to a closet, so the behind-frame space is about 1 foot; the other was built with a deep box metal inlet going to a 12-inch duct, which is 8-10 inches deep. Both provide adequate space for air flow with no significant restrictions. In addition to Honeywell, there are knock-off brands that offer similar deep pleated and low-pressure-drop pleated filters, but I cannot speak for their quality or effectiveness. The ones that we got fit our particular filter sizes. Looking at the actual filters, I see that I was mistaken about the MERV level, which is MERV 10. The ones we got are the current 3-inch deep filters rather than 4-inches deep (which the original products were), but they are described as having the same MERV value and pressure drop as the previous versions (likely by changing the details of the filter fabric, so that the more-shallow installation would fit more situations). The filters that I purchased do not display the model number, but you should be able to find these or equivalent products being sold. We bought our genuine Honeywell filters through an on-line HVAC supply company called SupplyHouse.com. The 24×24 version went by the SKU FC40R1078 on their web site, where the “40” is actually a carry-over from Honeywell’s original product that was 4″ deep; the ones we got, and the ones you are likely to get, are actually 3″ deep.

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By: Jerald Fuller https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-layered-approach-to-indoor-air-quality/#comment-31776 Thu, 08 Sep 2022 16:44:50 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7740#comment-31776 In reply to Marty R.

Could you share more info on this Honeywell filter that mounts are inch filter to a 1 inch opening? My search didn’t turn one up.

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By: Marty R https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-layered-approach-to-indoor-air-quality/#comment-31767 Tue, 06 Sep 2022 23:04:52 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7740#comment-31767 In reply to Bill Brice.

As Allison has pointed out in several other posts in the past, simply installing a MERV-13 filter into an existing system or in a new HVAC or ERV installation is likely to create pressure-drop issues at the filter. We bought our 1987 home in 2013 and immediately installed a new HVAC system to replace the existing failed unit, but the new system uses the existing return and supply ductwork, etc. The return filters are at the entry points for the main (low-level) return and smaller high-level return (rather than at the air handler, which is attic mounted). I jacked up the MERV rating using what were thought to be good-quality 1-inch pleated filters, confident that I would be improving everything. The filters were sucked into the returns by about 1.5 inches, but they showed the expected collection of dirt and dust on them. Then I read Allison’s article describing the effect of pressure drop at the returns on overall system flow, which is something I had been concerned about since I could not get enough supply flow to evenly heat and cool certain rooms in the house. These 1-inch thick filters were providing very high pressure drops because they were trying to stop small particles (the high MERV), so even with the support network of the frame they still were being sucked into the openings due to the resistance. A few months ago I switched to Honeywell 4-inch deep filters that mount in the normal 1-inch frames (and stick out the back, where there has always been plenty of space in our case), which retain the high MERV ratings (in the 13-14 range) but the deep pleats allow the air to flow with very low pressure drop, close to a low MERV pleated filter. The air flow through the returns and out of the supply ducts immediately increased. Voila, the supply issue had disappeared. So, be sure to take the pressure drop on your filter choice(s) into account, and keep it as low as possible to maintain your system supply sufficiency.

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By: Richard MacCrea https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-layered-approach-to-indoor-air-quality/#comment-31761 Tue, 06 Sep 2022 20:27:29 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7740#comment-31761 As a home designer/ planner who is very interested in IAQ, I’ve been thinking of a simplified way to reduce the chances of disease at home without making the home much more expensive. The HVAC system could have a fresh air supply running through a filter, dehumidifier, and UV before being mixed into the return air duct. This could increase the air pressure. The laundry/ mud room could be easily sanitized and have a fan for air exhaust. A person could enter from the garage, put their clothes in the wash, take a shower, and put on clean clothes. The exhaust would maintain a lower air pressure in this room, reducing contaminants from getting into the rest of the house. Also, an exhaust could be added to bedrooms for someone that is sick. A variable speed fan could raise the volume of air into the air return to compensate for how many exhaust fans are running. (This system would allow a kitchen range hood to operate more effectively).

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By: Bill Brice https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-layered-approach-to-indoor-air-quality/#comment-31758 Tue, 06 Sep 2022 17:57:08 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7740#comment-31758 So for high performance new residential construction would you say that MERV-13 on both HVAC and ERV systems is good protection without the need for a dedicated separate whole house filtration system (higher than MERV-13)?

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By: Kevin T. Dickson https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-layered-approach-to-indoor-air-quality/#comment-31757 Tue, 06 Sep 2022 17:39:18 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7740#comment-31757 Please God don’t let the residential code people see this.

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By: David Minor https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-layered-approach-to-indoor-air-quality/#comment-31756 Tue, 06 Sep 2022 17:21:07 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7740#comment-31756 Finally, approaching IAQ in the home!
I believe the HVAC and IAQ should be part of every system, at least sealing all duct work guided by static pressure tests, then treating g the air to be cleaner. All homes have different needs but the common denominator is the Health of the Occupant. For a $600.00 investment I built a system with a MERV 13, 5 inch Filter, with a UV Lighting, and also used and “Air Cycler” control using the fan motor of my Furnace to pull air thru my filter on every 1/2 hour, a 3 hour Cycle (During Cleaning of the Home), and a 24 Cycle for High Pollen or outdoor air quality issues that might be introduced to the home or if we are sick.
Our Family has reduced sickness and I believe the cost saving in Pharmaceuticals and Doctors Visits have been dramatically reduced thru the use of this system.
I Inspect homes from 1898 to present, all could use this type of system properly sized to support the Occupants of their Homes.

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By: Arthur Beeken https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-layered-approach-to-indoor-air-quality/#comment-31755 Tue, 06 Sep 2022 17:17:28 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7740#comment-31755 It remains a mystery to me how even folks with our advanced scientific knowledge have such a low mask adoption.

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