Comments on: Down and Out Is the Rule for Draining the Rain https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Fri, 30 Jul 2021 11:11:01 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Walter Stachowicz https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain/#comment-10175 Wed, 06 Apr 2016 18:50:13 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain#comment-10175 There are several other
There are several other glaring discrepancies here. The housewrap should have been installed with plastic cap fasteners, not staples. The flap on the top of the window should have tape on the diagonal cut on the left side. And it is not wise to mix and match brands of WRB materials. Some are acrylic based and some are butyl based. Notwithstanding the poor application, not one of the 3 manufacturers would live up to any product warranty if a claim were made.

]]> By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain/#comment-10174 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 23:08:18 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain#comment-10174 Yeah, I said it was better
Yeah, I said it was better than the usual but not perfect. What do you expect from the builder who made those other mistakes?

]]> By: Ryan Shanahan https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain/#comment-10173 Fri, 01 Apr 2016 19:17:21 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain#comment-10173 I’m concerned that water
I’m concerned that water might still find it’s way into that window assembly via the flashing tape at the top of the window that protrudes further out to the sides than the flap of house wrap the covers the majority of it. I think it’s relatively minor but ideally there should be zero reverse laps correct?

]]> By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain/#comment-10170 Thu, 31 Mar 2016 02:59:31 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain#comment-10170 No, Sean, you’re not missing
No, Sean, you’re not missing it. That’s OSB you’re seeing where you say you should see the peel-and-stick flashing.

]]> By: Sean @ SLS https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain/#comment-10169 Thu, 31 Mar 2016 02:00:04 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain#comment-10169 To add on to that, it can
To add on to that, it can actually make things worse if it is sloped incorrectly, becomes blocked, etc… as water will overflow into the areas next to it. If you add in some leaves into that gap you are really going to speed the process up.

Maybe I am missing it / reading it incorrectly but ice/water should have also been placed at that intersection of the wall to the fascia which would then have been overlapped – http://thehtrc.com/2013/getting-details-right-roof-flashing

Armando – that is what we call job security

]]> By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain/#comment-10172 Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:57:58 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain#comment-10172 I hear you know a thing or
I hear you know a thing or two about design, Armando.

]]> By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain/#comment-10168 Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:45:25 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain#comment-10168 Good question, Steve. I’m
Good question, Steve. I’m sure others wonder the same thing when they read the article, so I’ll answer it here. The gutter was the last thing to go on, so it has no ability to handle water that gets behind the cladding. It also doesn’t make up for the lack of kickout flashing because there’s a gap between it and the siding.

]]> By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain/#comment-10166 Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:41:59 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain#comment-10166 I’m sure you’re one of many
I’m sure you’re one of many people who learned this lesson the hard way, Rich. And your experience with ants taking up residence in the wet materials is common, too. It even happened to Joe Lstiburek. Here’s his article about it:

Leiningen versus The Ants Redux

http://buildingscience.com/documents/insights/bsi-056-leiningen-versus-the-ants-redux

]]> By: Armando https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain/#comment-10171 Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:34:27 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain#comment-10171 What you expect when builders
What you expect when builders and homeowners pay $1.00/sf for design services… I love it!!!

]]> By: Steve Waclo https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain/#comment-10167 Wed, 30 Mar 2016 18:10:04 +0000 http://energyvanguard.flywheelsites.com/?blog_post=down-and-out-is-the-rule-for-draining-the-rain#comment-10167 OK Allison, I gotta ask.
OK Allison, I gotta ask.

To what extent does the rain gutter shown in the last photo mitigate the described problem?

I’ll take my answer off the air.

Thanks for customarily enlightening work!

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