Comments on: A Year of Home Electricity Monitoring Data https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-year-of-home-electricity-monitoring-data/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Fri, 22 Sep 2023 15:31:32 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Don Myers https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-year-of-home-electricity-monitoring-data/#comment-34531 Tue, 05 Sep 2023 01:22:55 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=8439#comment-34531 Allison,
I was perusing your site for insight into upgrades for my existing HVAC system. We have a small “cabin” in the woods of north GA and have had issues with economical heating in the winter.

I installed the Emporia Vue to monitor the HVAC (and 14 other loads). One thing that you may not have noticed is you can adjust the multiplier of individual circuit voltages to get a more accurate wattage reading from the CT’s.
I took actual amperage and voltage readings on the circuits and adjusted them accordingly. I know it’s not really necessary to have precise readings but why not.
Anyway, if you feel the water heaters are correct you could adjust the Emporia circuits to more closely match them.

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By: Marty R https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-year-of-home-electricity-monitoring-data/#comment-34100 Thu, 27 Jul 2023 05:43:30 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=8439#comment-34100 In reply to Dennis Heidner.

We have a semi-conditioned area where our HPWH is located, and plan to move it to the garage and seal off that connection with a door. Living in Arizona, we benefit from using the heat available in the space for water heating, plus cooling the space for other purposes. No need to duct it elsewhere, although I do plan to install a “high intake” duct when I move it to the garage, to get maximum heat input before spreading the cooler air into the garage in general, and I will also seal off the otherwise semi-conditioned space for use as my hobby area (model trains, that is). Keeping the adjacent occupied areas from being exposed to excess heat (vs. the desired in-house temperature), even with insulated walls, is a good thing where we live.

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By: Dennis Heidner https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-year-of-home-electricity-monitoring-data/#comment-34096 Wed, 26 Jul 2023 21:04:19 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=8439#comment-34096 In reply to Steve Balser.

I’ve seen heat pump hot water heaters that were ducted to function as some chilling and dehumidification. Back in about 2013 at one of the DOE Solar Decathlons in Irving California. Several of the teams had used the GE GEOSPRING heat pump with an “optional” duct kit that allowed air to be brought in from outside the “closet’ and returned elsewhere. Typically the students would put the heatpump and ducting in same room with ERV.

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By: Shae Farmer https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-year-of-home-electricity-monitoring-data/#comment-34094 Wed, 26 Jul 2023 12:38:04 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=8439#comment-34094 Allison, I assume this is just you and your wife at home? I use almost 2x more electricity then you and my home is all electric. I use around 22k kw each year. That will change this year as in Feb we installed a Daikin Fit inverter HP 2.5 ton. The unit is oversized but they refused to install a 2 ton in place of a 3 ton. Good thing is that its not actually 2.5 tons as the BTU rating is 27k-28k BTU output for cooling I believe.
Anyways, my electric bill has flatlined since putting in the HP. Aside from this month we have used almost exactly 1270KW every month since Feb. That is with a house full, 2 adults, 2 kids, pets and a 50 gallon fish tank. I actually do monitor the fish tank with the emporia outlets. It uses between 35-60KW per month. I run one or 2 air pumps, a planted tank LED light that can dim, hang on back filter and a heater. Heater consumes 180 watts but its by far the most as the light as filters only consume around 35 watts.

I guess my power consumptions its all that high when you take into account we do not conserve power by going to extremes. I would like to get a HPWH and new windows though. I need to finish my rim joist insulation also.

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By: Shae Farmer https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-year-of-home-electricity-monitoring-data/#comment-34093 Wed, 26 Jul 2023 12:01:49 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=8439#comment-34093 In reply to Allison Bailes.

That brick veneer may help or hurt more then you think. I havent seen any actual studies on heat retention other then people saying “it hold heat very well.” I have a brick house and I’ll tell you right now that during the summer my max heating load is still 2-4 hours AFTER the daily max OD temp. Even on cooler summer days of say 80F degrees my brink is still a sweltering 130F. House built in 1972 and walls are R11 or R14 at best.

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By: Shae Farmer https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-year-of-home-electricity-monitoring-data/#comment-34092 Wed, 26 Jul 2023 11:56:53 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=8439#comment-34092 In reply to Allison Bailes.

How about oil return? IDK exactly how your unit works but my Daikin Fit will spin up to max compressor speed for oil return. IDK how often it happens but I feel like I see it more with heating. I’m unsure how much power it actually pulls but if it had to run more on certain days that might account for that. My Daikin Fit apparently cycles the compressor a little bit during cooling, possibly heating. I haven’t witnessed it but supposedly it goes through a few cycles an hour? Maybe that has to do with dehumidification.

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By: Gene DeJoannis https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-year-of-home-electricity-monitoring-data/#comment-34053 Fri, 21 Jul 2023 20:33:42 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=8439#comment-34053 In reply to Steve Balser.

I have heard of that Steve. Some makers have duct kit connections so you can deliver the air to a specific area. But one issue is that you may not want cool air delivered to that space in the winter, so you may have to rig up a diverting damper to deliver that cool air to another area for part of the year.

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By: Dennis Heidner https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-year-of-home-electricity-monitoring-data/#comment-34040 Thu, 20 Jul 2023 08:33:35 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=8439#comment-34040 I’m really intrigued by the 2707kWh energy use in the “everything else”.

That would typically be lighting loads, (LEDs right), ceiling fans, range hoods, bathroom fans, perhaps heated bathroom floor, TV, stereo…

Years ago when my wife and I cataloged and traced down all the loads, we went as far as counting GFCI (about 0.5W for some), smart light switches (sometimes 0.25 – 0.5W for them), but the big swinger was the coffee pot. Clear glass pot, that we’d brew coffee in the morning and keep warm until about noon. That was somewhere between a 250W and 300W load continuously… the boiling element is the same as the warming element.. just cycling more).

Outdoor landscaping… some of the highlights are 7W each… if they are incandescent.

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By: JD https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-year-of-home-electricity-monitoring-data/#comment-34039 Thu, 20 Jul 2023 05:26:14 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=8439#comment-34039 Don’t know how I ever signed up 4 your weekly B.S. but I’ve enjoyed it. Retired now. 70yrs old. & Started in remodeling when I was 14. But of course, I’ve done quite Abit of Everything in my life. My question IS- aren’t u ever concerned with ‘having all your eggs in 1 basket’? ALL Elec. ? Grid goes down- where does that leave you?
JD Roback
I currently live in the s.w. outskirts of Las Vegas. Depending partly on grid & propane & have minimal solar & prepared with firewood options. But quite far from a serious ‘survivalist’. But at my age, I really just look at the Big Picture with the healthiest time I have left.

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By: Steve Balser https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/a-year-of-home-electricity-monitoring-data/#comment-34037 Thu, 20 Jul 2023 01:58:35 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=8439#comment-34037 Have you heard of anyone “recovering” the chilled air output from a HP water heater?

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