Comments on: 4 Ways to Fix Your Duct System https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/4-ways-to-fix-your-duct-system/ Building science knowledge, HVAC design, & fun Mon, 14 Nov 2022 21:42:07 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.6.2 By: Jeff P https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/4-ways-to-fix-your-duct-system/#comment-31724 Sat, 03 Sep 2022 16:39:39 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7679#comment-31724 Allison,

On a frequent visitor to the vanguard website. About a year ago I had a Daikin inverter with 3 zones installed in my house. Today I noticed that there is condensate water collecting in the foil flex insulation of the bypass duct. I immediately got a bucket and put a hole in the jacket so I could drain it. I immediately shut off the static pressure control damper so it will close air flow to the bypass damper. Also unfortunately I noticed heavy condensate on the outside of the Daikin furnace assembly. Typically where I live the dew point gets anywhere from 76 to 80° this time of year at night and the temperature stays around 80°. Lastly it is in an unconditioned attic with spray foam traditional ceiling joists insulation. Two questions if I keep the bypass dampers closed will the static pressure cause problems in my system? I am not certain about building or fire codes but can I insulate the outside of the furnace to avoid the sweating of the unit?

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By: Thomas Dugan https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/4-ways-to-fix-your-duct-system/#comment-31433 Thu, 25 Aug 2022 01:18:58 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7679#comment-31433 Take the time to look up the proper way to use tape and tie straps when making your connections. There is a proper series of steps to be done properly. Not all duct tape is the same and codes specify which should be used and where. The inner flex especially needs to be both taped and strapped. The outer insulation layer needs to be tucked back inside itself with no insulation showing and then strapped tightly. Good trade craft will make you proud.

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By: Ryan McCann https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/4-ways-to-fix-your-duct-system/#comment-31176 Wed, 17 Aug 2022 21:21:21 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7679#comment-31176 In reply to Robert Adams.

yes sir! See ducts all the time next to the roof deck. In many cases the duct works have holes in them from the roofing nails. Can you say leaky ducts!

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By: Deniz Erkan https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/4-ways-to-fix-your-duct-system/#comment-31140 Wed, 17 Aug 2022 01:16:15 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7679#comment-31140 You had me at DIY. My house has a vented attic in southern CA. Looking at my R4.2 insulated (black color) flex ducts, that also sometimes have mastic over the insulation (not under) connecting it to the plenum and leaking noticeable amounts of air at the connection , I am thinking to get rid of some duct insulation , fix the connections, seal, and reinsulate ducts with better insulation (and not black), even if just part of the duct runs (and leave the rest at R4.2)

Thoughts ? Suggestions ?

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By: David Eakin https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/4-ways-to-fix-your-duct-system/#comment-31137 Tue, 16 Aug 2022 23:54:30 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7679#comment-31137 In reply to Allison Bailes.

Ok, then a follow-on question: Would it make more sense to replace end-of-life flex duct (assume EOL is around the warranty length) that was installed in a schetchy way with interior hard ducting (i.e., like new construction) rather than either fixing the old (and possibly have it fail shortly after) or tearing out the old flex duct and installing new?

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By: Vlad Grinchenko https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/4-ways-to-fix-your-duct-system/#comment-31130 Tue, 16 Aug 2022 21:09:59 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7679#comment-31130 Allison, great article. I have HVAC (gas) system installed in a crawl space vented attic here in DC area. The space is so tight that it is a challenge to check the the flex ducts for integrity. One thing HVAC guys suggested is to spray foam under decking of the roof in the attic wherever it can be reached with 3” open cell foam to reduce the summer heat temperature. Leave the attic vented with baffles and ridge vented. Can you comment on this idea or write an article? I thought the moisture might be a problem, but the HVAC guy pointed out that the attic would stay vented. Thanks!

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By: JC https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/4-ways-to-fix-your-duct-system/#comment-31126 Tue, 16 Aug 2022 19:40:23 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7679#comment-31126 In reply to Robert Adams.

Yep. My townhouse is like that. All of the ducts are sandwiched between the roof deck and cathedral ceiling and then snake down between the studs of exterior walls to reach ground floor ceiling. I’m sure some of them have puncture marks from the re-roof a couple of years ago.

For 20 years I’ve been praying that house would get struck by lightning or have a huge tree fall on it.

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/4-ways-to-fix-your-duct-system/#comment-31117 Tue, 16 Aug 2022 15:33:39 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7679#comment-31117 In reply to David Eakin.

David: Both good questions. Yes, before cutting a piece of flex to shorten and tighten it, it’s a good idea to check its condition. Replacing it with a new piece of flex will be harder—sometimes much harder—than just dealing with one end, so that might push it out of the DIY category for some people and in some situations.

Regarding panned joist returns, I didn’t mention that one because doing it properly would be beyond DIY skill level in my opinion. But of course, they could slather mastic all over the outside and get it as sealed up as possible.

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By: David Eakin https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/4-ways-to-fix-your-duct-system/#comment-31116 Tue, 16 Aug 2022 15:25:08 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7679#comment-31116 What about the lifetime of flex duct? It’s not built to last anywhere near the lifetime of hard duct material, so is it better to just plan to replace it (by a competent, diligent contractor) than repair it? And what to do with sheet pan ductwork between floor joists?

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By: Allison Bailes https://www.energyvanguard.com/blog/4-ways-to-fix-your-duct-system/#comment-31113 Tue, 16 Aug 2022 14:57:50 +0000 https://www.energyvanguard.com/?p=7679#comment-31113 In reply to LEE STEGALL.

Lee: Hear, hear! There are definitely better ways to spend your money, and fixing duct problems is one of the best.

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