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For many years, hosting such images on the Commons was done in good faith under the rationale that:

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Per COM:ONUS it is the responsibility of the person uploading an image to the Commons or anyone arguing for its retention here to provide evidence of permission from the copyright holder or that copyright has expired or never existed.

The NWS credits the Monticello Herald newspaper for this image, but this image does not look like a scan of a newspaper, and may have been an unpublished image from the newspaper archives. Unfortuntely, this period of the Herald has not been digitized, at least not for public access, so I have not been able to search it.

Conversely, although the Herald published a commemorative issue in 2014 and a photo gallery of the tornado damage in 2019, this image is not among them.

I emailed the newspaper asking about the image on September 20, but received no response.

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Description	English: Monticello's Presbyterian Church, Indiana, destruction by the longest F4 tornado on record in USA during the April 3-4, 1974, Super Outbreak. Français : Destruction de l'église presbytérienne de Monticello (Indiana), durant le Super Outbreak des 3 et 4 avril 1974. La tornade F4 qui est passée dans cette ville a le record de la plus longue trajectoire de toutes les tornades aux États-Unis.
Date	4 April 1974
Source	http://www.crh.noaa.gov/images/iwx/Events/historical/superoutbreak1974/F4_monticello/Monticello/Studio-D_Inc_White_County_Historical_Sociey/church.jpg ; deal link, archived: https://www.weather.gov/iwx/Superoutbreak_50th
Author	Monticello Herald

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